Rachel Dolezal, the NAACP chapter president who was removed from her post earlier this year after it was revealed that she is actually white, was a guest on Monday's episode of The Real, where she was grilled about her experience of blackness by the co-hosts, all of whom are (actually) women of color.
Co-host Loni Love criticized Dolezal for passing off her own experiences as those of someone who was born black, particularly when it comes to interactions with police officers. Dolezal noted that police check "black" on the traffic tickets she receives.
"I think that sometimes how we feel is more powerful than how we're born, and blackness can be defined as philosophical, cultural, biological," she said. "It's a lot of different things to a lot of different people. And I think you do have to kind of walk the walk if that's who you are."
When asked by co-host Tamar Braxton whether she had "walked the walk" of a black woman, Dolezal replied, "Absolutely."
Later in the show, Adrienne Bailon challenged Dolezal to clarify that she was born white, but identifies as black.
"I acknowledge that I was biologically born white to white parents, but I identify as black," Dolezal said, to a loud round of applause from the audience.
Watch clips from Dolezal's interview here: