Welcome to Episode 16 of A Beautiful Podcast to Fall in Love, TV Guide's unofficial Bachelor Nation show. This week, former The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise cast member Jacqueline Trumbull and TV Guide associate editor Liam Mathews dissect Episode 2 of Hannah Brown's season of The Bachelorette.

Topics discussed include what good dudes most of these dudes seem to be, especially Jed, and with the exception of Cam and Luke P., who seem bad. Luke is telling her everything she wants to hear, and Cam is an annoying guy who's working very closely with producers and has a smug face. And then there's 10 minutes of Game of Thrones finale talk. We're just here for the memes.

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The Bachelorette airs Mondays at 8/7c on ABC. It's available to stream on Hulu.