Welcome to Episode 18 of A Beautiful Podcast to Fall in Love, TV Guide's unofficial Bachelor Nation show. This week, former The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise cast member Jacqueline Trumbull and TV Guide associate editor Liam Mathews recap Episode 4 of Hannah Brown's season of The Bachelorette.

Topics discussed this week include Arie and Lauren's new baby, Halo Top, Jed's choice to come forward as an aspiring famous person, Kevin's comically dramatic sling for his arm, Tyler's stock with Hannah going up while Luke P.'s goes down, Hannah's unfair but understandable treatment of future liquor magnate Luke S., and why the best strategy on The Bachelorette is to just be normal and not a lunatic like Luke P.

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The Bachelorette airs Mondays at 8/7c on ABC. It's available to stream on Hulu.