Welcome to Episode 5 of A Beautiful Podcast to Fall in Love, TV Guide's unofficial Bachelor Nation podcast. This week, former The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise cast member Jacqueline Trumbull and TV Guide associate editor Liam Mathews break down Episode 4 of Colton Underwood's season.

This week Jacqueline and Liam talk about Caelynn's incredibly brave decision to come forward as a survivor of sexual assault and what it means to see a conversation like that on a show like The Bachelor, which doesn't have the best track record with heavy subjects; the merciful end of the beauty queen beef; Demi's continued excellence at using her screen time and how she's actually very mature; and speculate on who will get the season's 2-on-1 date now that Demi's nemeses are gone.

If you have questions for Jacqueline and/or Liam, send them to TV Guide's Twitter and they'll answer them on Instagram or a future episode!

Here's the RAINN article Colton shared about how to listen to someone who tells you they were sexually assaulted.

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