Survivor: Cagayan contestant Lindsey Ogle shocked producers, viewers and her tribe mates on Wednesday's episode, when she pulled herself from the game because tensions between her and Trish had reached a boiling point.
"It just was not something that would have been safe for her if I would have continued," a still-fired-up Lindsey tells TVGuide.com. "She took a little too far and she almost lost her front [teeth]. But I made the right decision, so we're good."
Check out our full interview with Ogle below to get a behind-the-scenes glimpse at her feud with Trish, as well as her thoughts on the Aparri tribe's blindside of Cliff, and which contestant is the biggest threat going forward:
So, we first have to ask, what prompted your decision to quit?
I don't even think it was about Trish. I don't want to give her that much credit. Have you ever been around somebody you just know that you don't like from the start? They don't even have to say anything. Their energy is just draining you physically. I first want to start off to say, I'm sure Trish is an amazing person, and I have much respect for her as a mother. She did what she had to do. That was the game that she chose to play. It just was not something that would have been safe for her if I would have continued. The only person I really thought of when I made the decision was my daughter.
You guys also faced some pretty harsh conditions.
We're going through the terrible weather and the terrible conditions. My toenails are falling off. All these things are happening. Everybody complains. There's always going to be a little whining here and there, because it's pretty terrible when it's bad. But when it came down to it, I really did leave because of my kid. You can't let it go too far. Badgering here and there is fine, or putting a little quick jab in, that's fine. But for me to physically hurt an older woman that weighs about 90 pounds is the most pathetic move I could ever think of, and she pushed me to that point.
So you definitely think things would have gotten physical between you two.
So it wasn't one of those things like, 'Ooh, she hurt my feelings. I want to go home.' I was seriously concerned about her health. Like, I got to the point where my hands started shaking. The adrenaline was just pumping through. My blood pressure was through the roof, and I have very low blood pressure. So my hands are shaking, and I just completely walk off and I am just raging out. I got to the point where, it was the straw that broke the camel's back. [What viewers saw] was just a taste, like an hors d'oeuvre of everything [between us]. ... It drove me absolutely nuts. And [our arguments] would be over the most ridiculous topics, like the diameter of the firewood that we were burning. Like, does it matter at this point? Are you kidding me? Oh, man. We were definitely the brawny tribe.
What were some of the things that happened that weren't shown?
She's just one of those people that, you do all these things and then she just stands there and watches you do it. Like, 'You could have picked that stick up, Lindsey. Everybody's trying to contribute. I'm like, are you kidding me right now? I just moved 50-pound logs while you sat there. ... I can honestly just tell you, from the moment that I woke up from my three-hour slumber at night, from the time that I finally got to sleep, it was nyah nyah nyah. Just constant. And she didn't do it to anybody else. I have no idea why she targeted me. I tried to leave her alone for the most part. I tried to kill her with kindness. ... But I really don't feel like I'm the only person she does it to in her life. I don't think we're going to see the end of the madness for the show. I don't know what happens, but I can only imagine that I'm probably not going to be the only one that wants to throat-punch her.
Do you regret your decision to quit?
Absolutely not. No. ... I don't want to spend all of my interviews talking about her, because she's a pathetic excuse of a person that I really don't feel like she's important enough for me to talk about. But when it came down to it, my kid is 7 years old. She thinks I hung the moon. ... There is a line where you can't cross. There's a line where you can't say, 'Well, OK, she's about to get it because she deserved it.' And she might have deserved it, and a lot of people who know me think, 'Oh Lord, Lindsey's snapped out and Trish is not going to have her front teeth. This is going to be crazy. Everybody tune in.' ... I think she was feeling pretty good about herself and she wanted to gloat a little bit. She took a little too far and she almost lost her fronts. But I made the right decision, so we're good.
Cliff's blindside elimination last week pretty much blew up your alliance. Did that factor into your decision to leave as well?
I mean, there were a lot of factors. You have to add those up and then you have to see where you're at in your mind and then make a decision. But I was a little shocked. I think it added to my fury a little bit, just because we had a plan from the get-go.
Going back a couple of weeks, what do you think of the Brawn tribe's decision to try to throw the challenge to get Cliff out?
I'm not into the whole, let's throw every challenge, especially so early on in the game. ... If you're on the Brawn tribe, get real. You can play the social game later. You don't have to throw. That's ridiculous. Survivor, time and time again, has been proven, it's about numbers. We might hate each other, but if we all stuck together and we were the final six, great. Then we could play it out here and there however we needed to do it. And everybody on our tribe was so different in physical strength and in the puzzles in that way, I think that it would have made a really freakin' good game. ... I'm here to play Survivor. I'm not here to play let's throw every challenge and be dumbasses. That's just stupid to me.
Why do you think Cliff was perceived as such a threat? Tony mentioned that he was good socially, but voting him out based on that seemed a little premature, given that he was such a help in the challenges.
I 100 percent agree with you, and that's what I felt too. Tony is the mastermind, and I think that he was quoted even saying, 'When a lion comes in and there's another lion, if you want the pack you've got to kill the other lion.' And that's what he was doing. I don't think that he should have done it so quickly. I think that's kind of stupid. Tony can't count to 20 with his shoes on, you know what I mean? I think that's what that is. I don't understand that at all, and I don't think Cliff really understood it either. The look of shock on his face.
Speaking of Tony, now that you've been watching the episodes, are you surprised at his "every man for himself" gameplay?
Yes. I was like, man, I'm not even worried about him. He is so stupid. Sarah and I would just laugh. He does do some Phillip [Sheppard]-esque type things where it's like, are you serious with your spy shack? It's some sticks with some leaves on it. What are you doing? You look like a crazy person. You don't take him seriously. And he's just that snake. I'm gonna say this: Tony's one of my favorites. If I were to be watching the show, I'd be like, I love him! I think he's great. I think he's playing the game harder than anybody else, and I actually respect that, because I just thought he was a box of rocks when I met him. ... He's rubbing two twigs together for like 18 hours. He's like, 'I'm about to get it.' I'm like, 'No you're not. They're green. You can't rub two green sticks together for 18 hours. It's never going to start a fire.'
So, who do you see as the biggest threat going forward?
I'd say Tony. He's a little snake. I'm excited to see what he's going to do next. And if he doesn't last long, at least he'll be entertaining.
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