After Alex Thomason's string of losses on The Apprentice — hey, if he can't keep count, why should we? — Donald Trump fired him. The mogul was far from bedazzled by Alex's job on the Hanes T-shirt task — and even less thrilled when the 29-year-old attorney couldn't recall his win-loss record during his boardroom head-to-head with Tana. Though he appeared to be an all-business, straight-laced Seattleite on the show, Alex definitely let his hair down when discussing his trials with TVGuide.com.
TVGuide.com: First off, what's your take on Tana traveling to Staten Island for beads?
I thought it was a dumb idea. When I found out it was going to be two and a half hours, that's when old Alex slipped through and I was like, "That is gonna be hella far, dude."
TVG: Wait, who is this "old Alex"?
I used to have hair down to my shoulders. I used to be a ski racer. I am still a rock climber and a surfer. But I used to look the part and talk the talk. After I started working for the corporate world, I had to cut my hair and shape up my lingo.
TVG: Do you ever wish you could go back to being old Alex?
Totally! He was great fun; he is still there. I pull him out for parties and tricks.
TVG: Did you know what a Bedazzler was?
When she first told me about a Bedazzler, I thought it was a headband that strippers wore.
TVG: Your Hanes T-shirt task was full of drama. Do you have a favorite T-shirt?
I do love [my] Ronald Reagan shirt. It says, "Viva La Reagan Revolution." It rocks. It's provocative and that's why I like it. People will be like, "Ronald Reagan? He's such an idiot." And I'll [say], "Which part didn't you like? The fact that he took taxes [for] the top bracket down from 90 percent to 17 percent, or that inflation went down from 29 percent to 8 percent? What part didn't you like?"
TVG: Sounds like quite the conversation piece.
It is a way to draw people into battle so that I can slay them.
TVG: So why did you do The Apprentice?
I had seen the show a couple of times and it looked so hard. I had no interest in being on it. [But] I had just taken the bar and was waiting for the results and I didn't have anything else to do. My girlfriend was like, "You need to go on The Apprentice and do it." I'm like, "There are a million people [applying]. Why would they want me?" But it all worked out.
TVG: Are you still with that girlfriend?
We broke up shortly after that, and then we got back together after the show.
TVG: Was this show as hard as you thought?
It is much, much harder. Seriously, I would pull 30 hours without sleeping. Bren and I did all-nighters all the time. We worked more hours than anyone else on that show. Period. On the Pontiac task, when I took a nap, here's the reason I didn't get fired. [Trump]'s like, "You took a nap!" I'm like, "Whoa, horsie!" This is what happened: I slept for about 50 minutes on the conference-room floor. Then Bren and Chris got in a cab and went home and slept for three hours. So I slept two hours less than they did. All three of us worked more hours than Kendra. I'm like, "Whatever, honey. Don't even talk about working late hours." Anytime we were on a task, we would send the girls home, Bren would smoke, I would drink coffee and we'd finish the job.
TVG: What really happened when you fought with Chris?
We are good buddies now. We have long since reconciled, but I completely thought that Chris was going to throw a punch at me. He never threatened to beat me up, but I thought he was going to. It was like the little cub is coming up to papa bear, and I'm like, "Whoa. Step off."
TVG: You were working all these hours... is that why you forgot your win-loss record?
It is not in my nature to keep track of every task. It is not a point of pride for me to rehearse and say, "I've done this much." I don't like people who do that because it is demeaning when somebody says, "Well, I went to this college. Who are you?" It is the same thing with my losses. Part of it was nature, part was sleep deprivation. I just didn't remember. It was no big deal. Carolyn and George both thought I should not be fired. But Mr. Trump had his own agenda and that is what he is going to follow.
TVG: Did it upset you that Trump kept referring to you as a loser?
No, it didn't. Each task has two parts: Part A is when you go and win or lose; Part B is when you go and impress Mr. Trump in the boardroom. Every single time I was in the boardroom, he said I killed everybody. "He's killin' you!" He said it to Tana, he said it to Bren, he said it to Chris. That is an opportunity to shine. I didn't see losing tasks as that big of a deal because I was getting extra interview time with the boss.