It was a finale of Big Brother unlike any other — and not the one Jackson Michie was expecting.

Instead of leaving the house with a beaming smile, the Big Brother 21 winner reacted to winning $500,000 with a stone face — a response no doubt a result of spending the previous 10 minutes on live TV being hit with accusations of sexism, bullying, and racism.

In a very special Episode 18 of Big Brother Brothers: The Ultimate Unofficial Podcast from TV Guide, your Big Brother-obsessed hosts, Fox Van Allen and Lance Cartelli, invade the Big Brother backyard to ask Jackson about his win. How is he reacting to being called out? And how does he answer fan — and BB alumni — concerns that he didn't take Have Not rules seriously?

Fox and Lance also talk to BB21's runner-up — and Jackson's showmance partner — Holly Allen. Did Holly throw away $500,000 for a summer fling? And what does she think about her new-found fame as "Holly Allen, 24, Wyoming!"?


How does America's Favorite Houseguest Nicole Anthony react when she learns that most BB alums were rooting for her — and that she was at the top of Jokers Updates' fan polling all season long? And what does she think about the new Big Brother trend toward more physical comps in the endgame?

You'll have to listen to find out!

And be on the lookout for more Big Brother Brothers finale-night podcast coverage, including interviews with the other jury members.

While Big Brother 21 is officially over, you can watch every season of Big Brother and relive the BB21 live feeds on CBS All Access.

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Check out Fox and Lance's Survivor Brothers: The Ultimate Unofficial Podcast From TV Guide.

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