Big Brother 5's first cast-off, Mike Lubinski, 41, was pretty much relieved to be ousted. This staunchly conservative single dad ran into trouble with some younger studs —

Scott and Jase, an allied pair who viewed his knowledge of the game as a big threat. Plus, as the commercial painter tells TV Guide Online, sitting around doing nothing was about as exciting as, well, watching paint dry.

TVGO: Was your family glad you didn't put on women's underwear like the other guys did in the margarita reward challenge?
Mike:
They were all proud that I didn't sink to lower levels.

TVGO: Didn't that make Jase think you weren't a team player, though?
Mike:
No. I think it was because I went around telling everybody that Scott and Jase were the strongest alliance. When they found out I was saying that, that's when they planned to get rid of me. Everybody else in there was kind of afraid to do anything against them.

TVGO: Scott remarked about you being "right" that he is the strongest player. Did that bug you?
Mike:
He misunderstood me, and I would like to correct him on that when I see him again. I didn't say that he was the strongest. I said they were the strongest. I think that got his head blown up even further.

TVGO: All that confidence could come back to bite him.
Mike:
You don't know how much I hope that it does.

TVGO: On the show, you said this game could drive you to the psych ward. What's worse: The game playing or the lack of outside contact?
Mike:
The length of the days was hard. The intelligence level of conversation was so low. And then, you put two people like Scott and Jase in my face 24/7, and I'm missing my family. All of that made it so that I didn't care if I had to leave.

TVGO: With no TV or entertainment, what exactly do you do all day?
Mike:
Nothing. You get up and scrounge up something to eat, if you are not on peanut butter. Even if you aren't, they are eating the food in there like locusts. So you get something to eat. Then, what I did everyday was lay out and talk a little bit. You kind of just go in a circle; you sit over here for a while and then you sit over there. That's all you do.

TVGO: That would drive me crazy!
Mike:
It was killing me. I was like, "Oh, my God, I can't do this until September."

TVGO: Will you ever eat PB&J sandwiches again? You were forced to eat 'em for a week!
Mike:
You know what? That didn't bother me in the least. As a matter of fact, I had one before I left.

TVGO: So you weren't mad at Lori for giving up the household food for $10,000?
Mike:
No. I told her that I would have done the same thing. For one week, I didn't care.

TVGO: Will you stay friendly with anyone from BB5?
Mike:
Yes. I would like to see Marv again. I'm supposed to be going to Will's house when he gets out and Diane is coming to my house when she gets out.