You have to say this about the Gillette Fusion razor: It sure is efficient, swiftly lopping two lawyers from the ranks of NBC's The Apprentice (Mondays at 9 pm/ET), as Stacy Schneider and project manager Jose "Pepi" Diaz got sent packing last week. Did the duo's hell-Brent determination to get the dancing terry-cloth monkey booted basically backfire? TVGuide.com asked the ousted for their input.
TVGuide.com: Pepi, for starters, congrats on an Apprentice first trying to send someone, Brent, home in the middle of a task.
Pepi: [Laughs] You don't know the half of it. It was a true debacle. Apparently the only other time somebody should have fired somebody was when Kwame [Jackson] was leading and he tried to send Omarosa home, but that was because he was the boss on a final task. Since I was only a project manager, I didn't have the authority to fire him.
TVGuide.com: Are both of you with me on this whole Fusion-razor thing? I mean, razors are simply getting too many blades. Where do we stop?
Stacy: Yeah, I know. Why not just do 10, right?
Pepi: [Laughs] By next year they'll be at 15 blades.
TVGuide.com: Did you think it would be a slam dunk to get Brent fired?
Pepi: I never thought it was going to be a slam dunk, just because he is very, very unpredictable and Donald Trump himself is very unpredictable. I never thought I was going to get fired because although a lot of things went wrong, I thought I maintained my composure and I thought I had done a good job.
Stacy: [Long pause] Did I think it was going to be a slam dunk getting Brent fired? Um... well, I thought it would be obvious that all his antics would finally pile up and he would be out. Like, enough is enough.
TVGuide.com: In retrospect, was too much made of Brent's "altercation" with Stacy?
Pepi: Obviously you can't see everything that happened, but most of the boardroom [discussion] was about Brent in different capacities, not just that one scenario. To say that 99 percent of what he did wasn't even shown is saying a lot. You can still tell the guy's a disaster.
Stacy: Oh, yeah, way too much was made out of it. It happened, it was unpleasant at the time, but it passed and we all continued working. All of us except for Brent, that is. Brent was dancing; we were working.
TVGuide.com: I had to laugh, Stacy, when Trump pointed out that as a criminal-defense attorney, surely you've had similar run-ins. Is he OK equating Brent with a felon?
Stacy: [Laughs] Being a criminal-defense attorney, I've found myself in a lot of unusual situations. But in all my years on television and in court, I never saw anything like that.
TVGuide.com: In your travels, what's the scariest thing you've laid witness to? Other than Brent dancing in a bathrobe.
Stacy: I've had reactive clients who were coming out of drug-induced states and had inappropriate reactions in court. But Brent was just all-around inappropriate.
TVGuide.com: Pepi, if you had it to do again, what would you have done differently as a project manager?
Pepi: I'd definitely make sure that somebody else was project manager because that task was doomed destined for failure. [Laughs]
TVGuide.com: Pepi, your NBC.com bio says one of your favorite books is How to Win Friends and Influence People. Did you get the chance to recommend it to Brent before you left?
Pepi: Brent has no self-awareness, so he actually sees himself as a friendly person and that his biggest skill is that people love him, which couldn't be farther from the truth. He really does ostracize people and make them feel uncomfortable around him, especially the women. He winds up fighting with women more than he does with men, which is kind of strange.
TVGuide.com: What's next for each of you?
Stacy: I just wrote a legal guidebook for women on how to handle their own divorce, and that should be coming out this year. I'm also continuing with my legal commentary on Court TV and CNN.
Pepi: I'm back at my law firm in Florida, doing my thing, bringing in new clients. I'm also starting a webpage where Cuban Americans can communicate with each other and find the best companies to work for.
TVGuide.com: You know, I have to wonder... Brent is going to go ahead and win this whole thing, isn't he?
Pepi: That'd be amazing, right?