Shameless flirt Raj dodged yet another bullet on Thursday's The Apprentice when 24-year-old model-in-mogul's-clothing John took the fall for losing the couture competition to the women. Ten hours into Friday's traditional post-firing PR blitz, which included appearances on Today, Extra, Tony Danza and Fox News Live, the onetime rugby champ sat down for what was arguably his most important interview to date: the one with TV Guide Online's Michael Ausiello.
TV Guide Online: Why is no one making use of the new "Three people in the boardroom" rule?
John: These are people you [potentially] have to continue to live and work with. As a result, you don't want to alienate another member of your team; that's an ally you've lost. I didn't think I was going home, so I didn't feel the need to alienate another person. But above and beyond that, the reason nobody brings three people in is because those three people can all aim their guns at you. So instead of two-on-one, it becomes three-on-one, and that's a tough battle to win.
TVGO: Who would you have brought in if you were given another chance? Wes?
John: I think I made the correct boardroom choice. After the task, Wes came up to me — off camera, unfortunately — and said, "I'm really sorry about the pricing. I know we made a mistake and I take ownership of that." And that meant a lot to me as a person and as a businessman. Kevin had the opposite approach. He didn't feel like there was ever a mistake made with pricing. That made it cut-and-dry for me.
TVGO: I couldn't believe how happy the guys were when they learned Pam had been fired. I didn't realize there was so much animosity toward her.
John: I was always a big supporter of Pam's, so I was very sad to see her go. But Pam is a very, very strong personality. She's very similar to Carolyn. She's not the type of woman that's gonna be pushed over in business. When she feels something she speaks her mind, and I think that actually intimidated a lot of the guys.
TVGO: Speaking of Carolyn, what did you think of her giggle-fit in the fabric factory?
John: I actually saw it for the first time [when I watched the episode] last night. She's a very cool customer and I think she dipped behind some of the shelves there so we couldn't see her. We were very much chickens with our heads cut off in that place. I don't know tweed from herringbone.
TVGO: What was it like being used as gay eye-candy in the restaurant episode?
John: It was all in good fun. Some of the other guys wanted me to take it a step further, which I was unwilling to do. But sex is a part of business. You have to use every advantage that you've got. And if I can go over and schmooze those customers, who were very disgruntled, then I think I pulled something off for our team. They actually gave us one of the highest ratings of anyone. It was fun to turn the tables on the women in that respect.
John: Chris wanted me to bend over and tie and untie my shoe. It was funny in concept, but realistically, it would have been a bit demeaning. For the ice-cream task, they [wanted] to put me in a Speedo and put me down in the Village hawking ice cream. It takes a stronger man than I to don a Speedo.
TVGO: My colleague Angel Cohn might disagree. She thinks you're dreamy.
TVGO: I guess that's not so much a question as a shameless come-on.
John: Am I still dreamy after I get the ax from Trump? That's the question.
TVGO: Hold on, let me ask her. (I pretend to go ask her.) Yep, she still finds you dreamy.
John: Well, that is so flattering. Thank her for me.