It was almost criminal: On Thursday's The Apprentice, after overseeing an NYPD recruitment campaign that all but resulted in police-force walkouts, 31-year-old Elizabeth made history by becoming history without even the benefit of a final round in the boardroom! But she wears her infamous exit as a badge of honor, and TV Guide Online finds out why.
TV Guide Online: OK, just how stunned were you when Donald Trump fired you without the final boardroom finger-point-athon?
Elizabeth:
It was a shocker. But I made history, and that's how I like to do things! (Laughs) I gotta go big!

TVGO: My wife has been in the ad biz for 15 years, and she says the NYPD recruitment ad you came up with was frightening. Like, Stacie J. frightening.
Elizabeth:
Yes. It was bad. (Laughs) That's why I didn't want to put my name on it from the beginning. When I delegated the creative to Raj and Chris and Jen, I said, "Come back to me with three ideas," and they came up with one, and they just would not move from that idea. It was more a strategy for getting me out of the game than it was for getting the task right.

TVGO: After you and Kevin brainstormed your own campaign at 2 a.m., you tried to sell it to the rest of the team but retreated, leading Ivana to drop the 2004 F-bomb on you: She said you "flip-flop"!
Elizabeth:
When Kevin and I came up with our idea, I was so excited, but in the editing room I saw we didn't have the footage to make our idea come to life. So there was no decision to make; there was no flip-flop. It simply wasn't an option to do that campaign. I didn't get to tell Kevin that before the boardroom, so he had a misunderstanding of the situation.

TVGO: Your bio touts you as an "avid salsa dancer," so be up front with me: Did salsa dancing figure into your and Kevin's idea?
Elizabeth:
Unfortunately, no. But salsa dancing is my favorite thing to do on the dance floor. I love it.

TVGO: "Flip-flop" pop quiz: You're at a wedding reception and the waiter asks, "Beef or fish?" Which do you choose? Quick!
Elizabeth:
Fish.

TVGO: Hmm, are you sure? Everyone else at your table seems really excited about the beef...
Elizabeth:
I am absolutely sure.

TVGO: Do you regret crying during the restaurant task? It seemed the equivalent of throwing chum into a shark tank.
Elizabeth:
No. In the real world, I have never cried in a professional environment, and I never will — I know that about myself. I kept asking to [go find people to eat at our restaurant] and was told, "No." In my mind, when you're frustrated, there are two ways to go: You either yell at people and be rude, or you take it in. I ended up taking it in, which is the lesser of the two evils.

TVGO: You brought Stacie J. into the boardroom after the Crest toothpaste task, where she ended up getting fired for being, well, frightening. Do you stand by your decision?
Elizabeth:
Oh, absolutely. I am so glad you asked about that. I took Stacie J. into the boardroom specifically for business reasons. She did a lot of things wrong on that task, and I told her that after the fact. I never intended to bring up anything that happened in the first episode, but when Maria did, Trump asked me and I told the truth, because that's what I do. In hindsight, I didn't know that she'd get fired over it. I didn't want her to be perceived as crazy.

TVGO: On the heels of Stacy R., you're the second self-described "motivational speaker" to be sent packing. Coincidence, or conspiracy? Perhaps y'all can talk the talk but not walk the...
Elizabeth:
(Laughs) Conspiracy! I definitely talk the talk and walk the walk.

TVGO: Who are you surprised is still around? It's curious that Raj has made it this far, if only because it obviously got back to The Donald that Captain Bow-Tie was all over the Trump Models.
Elizabeth:
Raj knows he has escaped a few now. People who have not led tasks, I don't think should be around. I stepped up to the plate and I think everybody should.

TVGO: As owner of the consulting firm Pulse40, you claim to have pioneered "a unique interviewing process." Surely it cannot compare to what I have hit you with here.
Elizabeth:
Well, yours is unique in a different way. (Laughs) Mine is more about psychological interviewing, so I get deep. I make people sort of realize things, which always ends up being an insightful interview to watch.

TVGO: That's all I've got. And if you don't mind me saying so, even over the phone your breath was Crest Vanilla Minty fresh.
Elizabeth:
Oh, thank you!